217: Excessive Legislation and Marginalization

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The Scurvy Forward:
The ability to have one’s voice heard is what makes them a person in the eyes of the public.

Time and again in history, whenever a people has lost the ability to have their voice heard in a medium that can project empathy and passion to the people at large, they have lost the right to be considered a person by the lawmakers. Though we may cast many an ill glance at the film industry in the past decade, it has provided that valuable service.

Regular Hosts:
Amber of Red Tail Arts, Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), Joe of Pagan Roadtrip
Guest Hosts:

Amanda, a woman so full of win she doesn’t need a link!!, Barrett of Pagan Men,

00:16
Scurvy’s Foreward on the ability to have one’s voice heard
00:42
Have the solution you intend to use instead of using tradgedy to advance your own position
01:07
What motivated the episode?
01:16
Scruvy talks Unions
01:46
In Wisconsin, the Unions shut down the goverment temporarily
02:08
Motivation to look at news paper articles with a different perspecitve
02:17
Are we talking discrimination? Scurvy gives some examples of how he thinks the goverment should be there for the people. Not picking on people growing gardens in their yard.
02:59
Dave puts together some examples of excessive legislature.
03:14
News reported is arrested because you have to report the meeting or participate…not both
03:51
People are slowly learning mob mentality gets shit done
04:21
If you want to make a change with mob mentality, march on Washington, don’t cost people’s lives
04:35
Fed oath is to uphold and defend the constitutional form of the goverment…not the goverment as it is
05:06
There’s a lot of positions not elected in the goverment anymore
06:04
Scurv makes the comment big business is now another branch of the goverment
06:31
If you throw enough money at a situation, it’ll go away
06:50
Cities making it illegal to grow your own food…WTF?
07:13
Not having the ability to grow your own food was treated as a conspiracy theory a few years ago. Look at it now!
07:56
Listen to: STUFF THEY DON’T WANT YOU TO KNOW: MONSANTO CONSPIRACY
08:07
Dave elaborates on the Monsanto Conspiracy: Genetically engineered seeds and what it means for our future as far as farming and food supply
08:41
Conspiracy theories, why are they so easy to dismiss
08:50
Biggest problem: Easily discredited statements
09:21
Scruv points out the tobacco industry and it’s involvement in goverment agencies
09:55
Our system’s not perfect, and the moment we think it is is the moment we become too complacent with it
10:13
Dave explains the system of checks and balances in the form of copyrite and NRA
10:46
Whether my nation worships ten gods or no god, it neither breaks my leg or breaks my pocket
11:04
Civil Rights are not part of the constitution. Technically, there’s a lot of people that don’t have rights constitutionally speaking
11:27
When talking about slavery, you have to include the idea of greed
11:52
The power that a company has over you as an individual is horrifying
12:07
If we get shit from this episode, I’m sure we can call up Circle Sanctuary
12:25
People tends to go off the deep end with little things rather than focus on the big things
12:38
Dealing with the goverment can be too intimidating to deal with because it’s seen as a whole entity
13:03
It’s easier to blow up at something you feel you can control rather than something that is big
13:18
Scurvy talks about job discrimination with pagans in regards to people being allowed to not hire someone of a particular faith path as long as they state it in the job description
13:46
Where did you have to prove you were not a religion for you own benifit? The inquisition, the Holocost, Convert or die,
14:07
Let’s not forget converting the Native American’s to Christianity…we even convinced them to do it themselves!
14:23
At least Hitler put the Jews on trains…when we do genocide, we make them walk 1,000 miles
14:28
A morgage is basically putting things back to a feudal state
14:54
Scurv talk about health insurance
15:23
Or…you can just make healthcare not cost so much…
15:35
We should get our meds from Canada and save money in the process
15:39
Scurv talks about how he hears chicken little stories about socalized healthcare
15:47
You never hear about how awesome Sweden and Japan’s healthcare are
15:59
We have some of the same problems with our healthcare over here if not worse…
16:04
The British system may still be the worst system, and it still works!
16:10
We talk about how you’ll wait for surgery in either place. However, over here…you may still wait AND let’s hope you can pay for it
16:32
Do we want the goverment to take over healthcare? Maybe just not with how it is now
16:54
People are just letting things happen
17:01
There’s too much in the news to take in and analyze
17:11
Dave uses the Casey Anthony trial going on and the coverage instead of covering the wars that we’re in
17:23
They’re trying to make the Casey Law that it’ll be a federal offense not to report them missing and something about double jeopardy
17:36
Dave says there’s a search and rescue that’s sueing because the child was never missing to begin with
17:57
Balloon Boy? No, this mother just killed her child
18:06
Being on an isolated place changes your view on what you worry about. News takes a different tone. If it doesn’t effect your life…nobody cares
19:08
Raises are for when the money is there. Hey Congresspeople…lead by example!
19:29
It’s getting to point where it’s not laws to help people live. It’s getting to where we have laws that just rape you up the ass because they can get away with it
19:50
Shouldn’t we have leaders that we actually WANT to follow?
20:02
Once you have over 30 million people…it just can’t function as a democracy or a republic. It’s just too big.
21:00
We built the ENTIRE interstate highway system in 20-30 years. Now we can’t do anything but blow crap up
21:42
For every piece of armor you put on, you give up a piece of freedom
22:04
How does an HOA tell you anything keep the value of your home at a peak? It doesn’t
22:28
You obviously can’t take care of things enough, so we’ll just give you enough regulations so where you’re forced to
22:42
Chatroom input: Maybe the USA should break up?
22:59
Federal gov shouldn’t be doing much, so why don’t we just break it back down to the state level?
23:22
OSHA…they’ve done good things. Go OSHA!
23:49
Amber talks about her experiences with OSHA in restaurant work
24:13
You need the federal system because the states just suck at keeping things up
24:23
40 hour work week…go federal gov
24:43
Chatroom input: They’ve seen a lot of business cut corners on safty, so they understand all the regulations
24:13
You need the federal system because the states just suck at keeping things up
24:23
40 hour work week…go federal gov
24:25
Our goverment is supposed to be disbanding monopolies…not sure what happened there…..
24:43
Chatroom input: They’ve seen a lot of business cut corners on safty, so they understand all the regulations
25:07
Who can afford to lose the ability to feed yourself to fight a battle of morality
25:20
People need to start speaking again
25:22
Scruv thinks we need a new method of communication to get people to speak…Dave shoots it full of holes
25:45
People don’t mail shit anymore. So when they get a piece of mail, so they pay more attention to it
26:05
Mass e-mails are annoying
26:08
Let’s use facebook as an example of annoying mass messages
26:28
Scurv wants people to march and send letters, but his reasoning is it doesn’t work because they can’t afford to do it. Dave says nope, laziness is the culperate
26:52
There is a mix of fear in there…what if I’m the only one. We need the mob mentality for the idea of comfort while fighting for their ideals.
27:28
If there’s no record of reports, the company has perfectly deniability because no report has ever been filed.
27:58
Mob mentality is great, but it makes people stupid
28:10
Scurv talks about speaking to congress
27:28
If there’s no record of reports, the company has perfectly deniability because no report has ever been filed.
27:58
Mob mentality is great, but it makes people stupid
28:10
Scurv talks about speaking to congress
28:18
Amanda tells a story about a man who wanted to speak to Queen Elizabeth (the current one) And how she handled the situation. Go Elizabeth!
28:55
You don’t always have to do something wrong, all they have to do is SAY you did something wrong
29:33
How can you prove you’re not pagan? Scurv talks about how he thinks its a popularity contest. But you need to have a definition for something like that to work
30:27
There’s better things to worry about rather than what religion they are
30:44
Religion shouldn’t play anything when it comes to the job
30:59
The only job it should matter is when its in a church.
31:07
Amber talks about the parameters of the McCullum court case and her perspectives on it.
31:43
Scurv is wondering why religious people are getting paid
32:18
How ARE religious people going to survive if they’re not paid for their job? Because it’s not all donation of time. The congregation pays them. Pagans just don’t have the structure to do this right now
32:57
Peter Dybing gets everyone together, or we sell glitter graphics to pay our clergy…
33:26
People need to start focusing on positive action
33:37
Take the amount of time you’ll take bitching, and write a letter and mail it…
33:56
Scurvy wants us to write Congress once a week………
34:53
We might get some Congress critters on the show…then what would happen?
35:10
Barrett says Canadian politics deals in needs, and American politics deals with morals
35:38
Amber talked to a secretary, and she explained how most of them don’t know the laws their supposed to uphold
36:28
Who’s really running the country? The secretaries…
36:48
We talk about the Congressman that sent photos of his penis out and then claimed it wasn’t him.
37:37
Scurv…he’s going to handwrite letters
37:53
Scurv reitterates people need to get involved
39:17
Dave picks on MA…they have to follow everything to the letter even if it makes no sense
39:30
There’s the Army training facility down in TX…would it be wise to invade the state that has all those soiders?
39:51
Mexico’s lucky it doesn’t have oil that Americans want…wait…backtrack…been there done that.
40:27
Just how many places are we blowing up now? Let’s list them!
40:47
There’s a panic starting that the goverment will stop funding emergency services
41:05
Hey…park service won’t get paid if that happens..you know what that means? KILL THE PLOVERS! KILL THE PLOVERS
41:19
We suck at this politics things…where’s Cara when you need her?
41:47
Monkeys owning copyrights…
42:51
Scurv randomly brings up how he wonders what will happen when we meet intelligent life on other planets. Why in the world would they like to talk to humans???

Credits

Post-produced by: Amber
List of resources used or mentioned:
PCP is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 US License.
Season 22 Credits:
[DH] Lethal Destiny
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/354802
_-={Everlasting Times}=-_
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/170554
_-={Forces United!}=-_
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/290238

Originally Published: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 at 5:08 pm
Pagan Centered Podcast
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